The earlier Streetlites are Cummins, I believe all the mild hybrid ones that have Low Carbon certification are Daimler (Mercedes)
Different chassis, different interior, different exterior, different manufacturer, different quality, similar engine. Hardly the same bus...Arriva North East seem to have Cummins on most of their MH streetlites from 15 or 16 plate streetlites, with 2 Daimler trials. A bit of deeper digging shows the Cummins are used on the 22 route that was being complained about. If you've been on both, I can definitely say Daimler examples are a lot smoother... but that being said it's true that they, the Streetlites being complained about, basically are ADL 200s with different bodies on the most part.
Different chassis, different interior, different exterior, different manufacturer, different quality, similar engine. Hardly the same bus...
If ride and features is what you want...I can tell you all about that too! When braking, the bus has a tendancy to suddenly surge forwards as the brake has been released, meaning drivers have a hard time controlling the braking, and usually end up having to brake quite hard, giving a poor ride to passengers (and this appears to be 90% of drivers, of a range of companies), the suspension is inadequate, the gearbox revs far to high, (though that can be seen in Euro6 E200s, and I always complain about it there too...), there is a similar amount of features, certainly here in London, on the two buses you mention. However, things like stop bells, door equipment, GPS systems and CCTV screens, seem to always be breaking on a Streetlite, and hardly ever do on an E200, or any other bus. Quite a coincidence in my opinion. But at the end of the day thats all it is really, opinion. I have mine and you have yours...so I suppose we'll just agree to disagree eh?The looks and material used on the outside and inside doesn't seem to be an appropriate argument here. You've very quickly gone from complaining about gearbox issues and mechanical stuff to aesthetically matters. For me, the looks do not make the bus, rather how it rides and the features available. It could look like an octopus for all that really matters.
53 miles? What route is this?When my depot got StreetLites everyone loved them. Now they don't. I had one on my late turn last night on our longest route which is a 53 miles round trip and I did 1 and 3 quarter trips on it. Its a route I do often as well so appreciate a good bus on it, usually its a 667** or a 69** Volvo. Theyre okay for city work but not the route it was on last night.
ANE Has some new 17 Reg streetlites, They are alright I suppose. One did brakedown on the first day. From a driver P.O.V they are nice to drive. Still prefer the pulsar 2.Arriva North East seem to have Cummins on most of their MH streetlites from 15 or 16 plate streetlites, with 2 Daimler trials. A bit of deeper digging shows the Cummins are used on the 22 route that was being complained about. If you've been on both, I can definitely say Daimler examples are a lot smoother... but that being said it's true that they, the Streetlites being complained about, basically are ADL 200s with different bodies on the most part.
Our Horsforth - Seacroft service53 miles? What route is this?
Are you quite sure you've done you're maths properly? Seeing as its about 10-15 miles across Leeds, making it about 30 miles...not quite near 52 I reckon you could do that trip, going via Harrogate and still be around 52 miles round trip...Our Horsforth - Seacroft service
They're 67 reg. Can't recall any breaking down on their first day either.ANE Has some new 17 Reg streetlites, They are alright I suppose. One did brakedown on the first day. From a driver P.O.V they are nice to drive. Still prefer the pulsar 2.
Ah yes I do love Bramley's streetlites, as a passenger they are lovely. My personal favourite is 47640. I assume the 52 mile round trip route is the 9A?When my depot got StreetLites everyone loved them. Now they don't. I had one on my late turn last night on our longest route which is a 53 miles round trip and I did 1 and 3 quarter trips on it. Its a route I do often as well so appreciate a good bus on it, usually its a 667** or a 69** Volvo. Theyre okay for city work but not the route it was on last night.
Yes I am sure when I drive the route in service at least once a week lol. It goes the long way round.Are you quite sure you've done you're maths properly? Seeing as its about 10-15 miles across Leeds, making it about 30 miles...not quite near 52 I reckon you could do that trip, going via Harrogate and still be around 52 miles round trip...
Yes the 9A or as its referred to at work as "Ring Road". Not a lot of people like the route because of its tight timings and the length of it. I enjoy the route, infact I am on the same duty Monday Tuesday and Wednesday this week as overtime on my week off.Ah yes I do love Bramley's streetlites, as a passenger they are lovely. My personal favourite is 47640. I assume the 52 mile round trip route is the 9A?
I stand corrected. I take it the 9A goes end to end? I was only ever aware of the 9, which splits its journey at the White Rose, and it also is run by two companies, which begs the question, which company operates the 9A?Yes I am sure when I drive the route in service at least once a week lol. It goes the long way round.
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Yes the 9A or as its referred to at work as "Ring Road". Not a lot of people like the route because of its tight timings and the length of it. I enjoy the route, infact I am on the same duty Monday Tuesday and Wednesday this week as overtime on my week off.
We used to do the 9 fully yet we only do it on a night but it runs as the 9A. There are 4 buses that run it on a night. My duty what I love is you take it from Garage Park, private to Seacroft then to Horsforth, back to Seacroft and back to Horsforth and into the garage. First Bus operate the 9A and the 9 between Horsforth - White Rose and obviously the 9A on evenings and sundays.I stand corrected. I take it the 9A goes end to end? I was only ever aware of the 9, which splits its journey at the White Rose, and it also is run by two companies, which begs the question, which company operates the 9A?
Ahh makes sense. I've only ever been near that route during the day, so I would never have seen the 9A or knew of its existance if it weren't for you Thanks.We used to do the 9 fully yet we only do it on a night but it runs as the 9A. There are 4 buses that run it on a night. My duty what I love is you take it from Garage Park, private to Seacroft then to Horsforth, back to Seacroft and back to Horsforth and into the garage. First Bus operate the 9A and the 9 between Horsforth - White Rose and obviously the 9A on evenings and sundays.
I've got 47640 now on the 15Ah yes I do love Bramley's streetlites, as a passenger they are lovely. My personal favourite is 47640. I assume the 52 mile round trip route is the 9A?