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Jason

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Welcome to the town of Grismby. Famed for its Fishing Industries, Grimsby spent many years on the top of the fishing game during the 1970s. However, has seen the rise of food manufacturering since the 1990s  after its post-industrial decline. This large town was originally in the county of Lincolnshire, but became part of Humberside in 1974 and rejoined Lincolnshire in 1996. London, this town is not. Grimsby has been built on the hard work of the men and women that live there, and has many famous landmarks such as the Dock Tower. It's located on the South side of the Humber bank and faces directly out towards the North Sea and is one of the largest towns in the area, with approximately 90,000 residents. In 1993, Stagecoach took over Grimsby-Cleethorpes Transport as they began to expand their empire across the county with the purchase of Lincolnshire Road Car (which provided services to South Killingholme, Louth, Barton-upon-Humber and the Willows Estate) in 2005 and now provide nearly all the bus services within the area. As a Bus Driver in Grimsby, you shall operate a variety of Single and Double Decker buses throughout the area, which includes serving Grimsby itself, Cleethorpes, Louth, Immingham and many more! Driving in Grimsby is not so much a Sight Seeing Tour, but providing vital transport services to the thousands that use the public transport in the area and can offer even some of the more highly skilled drivers a challenge!


Finally, I'm pleased to announce Project Grimsby. With the large increase of UK Based Maps appearing in OMSI, I felt this would be a great oppurtunity to launch a new project for the OMSI Community! Many projects are set in absolutely beautiful locations, however it's important to remember the hard working and more demanding places to work! Project Grimsby shall not be a small project, as I plan for it to be a project full of the little details (I'm a one for an eye for the small details). By no means will I be able to complete this project by myself, and it would be truly great to see members of the community come together! Please read on for more details about this new project!



Stagecoach provide a large variety of different services in the area that serve many thousands of people per week, and being a project that will simulate Grimsby's Bus Services to as much detail as possible, once the project reaches full completion - I hope to have worked as many of the services and routes available in as possible to provide many hours of fun driving! Here is a list of the different services and destinations that hopefully will be included (this list is subject to change as more research is completed for this project)!


Service 1: EuroParc/Wybers Wood/Grimsby/East Marsh/Cleethorpes
Service 2: Wybers Wood/Grimsby/East Marsh/Cleethorpes
Service 3: Morrisons/Cleethorpes Pier/Bradley
Service 4: Morrisons/Cleethorpes Pier/Bradley
Service 5: Immingham MIC/Grimsby
Service 5C: Grimsby/Immingham
Service 6: Grimsby/Wybers Wood
Service 7: Grange Estate/North Sea Lane/Laceby
Service 8: Grimsby/North Sea Lane
Service 8S: Pleasure Island/New Waltham/Grimsby
Service 9: Grimsby/Waltham/Cleethorpes
Service 9S: Waltham/Cleethorpes
Service 10: Grimsby/Waltham/Pleasure Island
Service 11: Grimsby/Scartho Park
Service 12: Grimsby/Bradley Park/New Waltham/Cleethorpes
Service 17: Cleethorpes Pier/Thorpe Park
Service 20: Wybers Wood/Grimsby/East Marsh/Cleethorpes
Service 25: Grimsby/Ludford
Service 50: Louth Town Service
Service 51: Louth/Grimsby/Tetney
Service 51A: Louth/Holton Le Clay
Service 51B: Louth/Holton Le Clay
Serivce 51C: Louth/Grimsby
Service 104: Waltham/Holton Le Clay


Unfortunately, it may not be possible to include support for the Humber Flyer, College Flyer, 53, 53A and 53B Services to the sheer distances they must cover and the possible effects it may have on the Map. However, they may be added in the future if they prove not to cause problems. Another thing that I would like to note is that not all routes will be included straight off the bat! This Project shall be ongoing and will expand over time with new routes being added as time goes on!




The Stagecoach Depot in Grimsby used to be a Tram Depot, and stores all the vehicles that operate within Grimsby-Cleethorpes and the surrounding areas. These vehicles include;


- 2014 Scania N230UDs (with E400 Bodywork)
- 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 & 2005 Volvo B7TLs (East Lancs Vyking Bodywork)
- 2004 Volvo B7TLs (Wright Eclipse Gemini Bodywork - Open Topper)
- 2005 Dennis Tridents (Alexander ALX 400 Bodywork)
- 2006 & 2007 Dennis Trident 2s (Alexander Enviro 400 Bodywork)
- 2010 MAN 18.240LFs (Alexander Enviro 300 Bodywork)
- 2012 & 2014 Dennis Dart SLF4s (Alexander Enviro 200 Bodywork)


Our end goal is to produce identical versions of these vehicles within OMSI 2 (such as the N230UD E400s and East Lancs Vyking B7TLs) if they haven't already. However, this would be a later development after the intial Map Release. Upon the Map Release, it is hoped that the following vehicles shall be operated;


- Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 by Winsome
- Alexander Dennis Enviro 200 by GX7767 Studios
- Volvo B7TL Wright Eclipse Gemini by AD156 (Could be replaced by the B9TL Gemini 2)
- Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 by AD156
- Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 (Open Top) by AD156



As previously stated, in order for Project Grimsby to be successful, the project cannot be completely by just one individual (especially with the massive variety of different skills that are required). This is where you come in!


There are many different roles that need to be filled for this project which all require different sets of skills, these include;


- Map Production (The Map will be quite large, with some routes nearing 20 miles in distance!)
- Model Production (For things such as Street Models, etc.)
- Model/Vehicle Skinning (I'm quite handy when it comes to Model Skinning now, and can do the majority of this - however an extra pair of hands is useful)
- Research/Planning (I've taken quite a lead on this and have collected some useful data so far, but again, some extra hands can only help make things go more smoothly!)


Personally, I feel Project Grimsby is a great oppurtunity for creators to work together and meet new developers to produce what can be a really awesome final product! Of course, the more hands that become involved in the project, the better! If you have experience in Map Production, Modelling or Skinning, then please do get in contact with me through Private Message or through the Thread for us to potentially arange for you to join the project! Personally, I'm very excited to see the launch of this project, and am personally very enthusiastic about the plans! It would be great to see the town of Grimsby finally make it into an amazing simulator such as OMSI!


If you have any questions or enquiries about the project, please feel free to leave a response in this thread!
Also, feel free to check back for new updates in regards to Project Grimsby, I look forward to keeping you guys updated!
 
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That is a very large project, I would recommend cutting down the number of routes to start with. However, I wish you the very best of luck!


Would it be possible to have at least 2 in-game screenshots of what you have so far, as per the latest WIP topic guidelines? :)  As long as you will have some within the next few days, that is fine.
 
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Jason

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@MagicReloadable: I agree, the project is quite large! The list of routes is what I hope the Project will eventually transition into. Obviously, smaller routes such as Service 3, Service 11, Service 17 and Service 51 (Grimsby-Tetney) will be ones that are focused on first, with the larger routes being developed further down the line!


I have started the development of some Skins for the different Models (mainly the E400 and B7TL), however these still will require quite a bit of work until they are fully completed and 'Grimsby' ready! :)


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Too large in my opinion. I'd recommend scaling down to two or three, four at a max routes for starters.
 

Jason

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Too large in my opinion. I'd recommend scaling down to two or three, four at a max routes for starters.










Like I said in my previous post, that is the plan! I didn't intend on featuring every single Line that was available right off the bat! Things such as Route 3, Route 11, Route 17 and parts of Route 51 shall most likely be first on the agenda!
 

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I also think its quite a lot of routes - but I'm impressed with what I see so far and ambition is no bad thing.


However, in terms of collaboration, most people with the ability to make a good map are naturally already tied up in maps of their own - so I'd recommend you give it a shot yourself. You've obviously taught yourself to be a dab hand at repainting already, so you should pick up map editing pretty well. Obviously we can give advice, though - we've found that map development livestreams are a great way to learn and pass knowledge around, both for the people watching and for the people streaming, plus it builds a bit of excitement for the project. We have a livestream thread in the forum members lounge which is a great way to get an audience.


I'll be keeping an eye on your progress :)
 
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Jason

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I also think its quite a lot of routes - but I'm impressed with what I see so far and ambition is no bad thing.


However, in terms of collaboration, most people with the ability to make a good map are naturally already tied up in maps of their own - so I'd recommend you give it a shot yourself. You've obviously taught yourself to be a dab hand at repainting already, so you should pick up map editing pretty well. Obviously we can give advice, though - we've found that map development livestreams are a great way to learn and pass knowledge around, both for the people watching and for the people streaming, plus it builds a bit of excitement for the project. We have a livestream thread in the forum members lounge which is a great way to get an audience.


I'll be keeping an eye on your progress :)










Thank you for the kind words! I did open the Map Editor a few weeks back and didn't get on too well with it, but I will hopefully try and have a go again at some point in the coming weeks! Personally, Route 51 (including A, B & C as they all follow basically the same trip) might be good ones to start with as they're pretty Inter-Urban and can last anywhere between about 30 Minutes all the way up to around 1 Hour in driving time. That, and it would provide a good, solid basis for the Map as it does go through the spine of Grimsby!
 

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Thank you for the kind words! I did open the Map Editor a few weeks back and didn't get on too well with it, but I will hopefully try and have a go again at some point in the coming weeks! Personally, Route 51 (including A, B & C as they all follow basically the same trip) might be good ones to start with as they're pretty Inter-Urban and can last anywhere between about 30 Minutes all the way up to around 1 Hour in driving time. That, and it would provide a good, solid basis for the Map as it does go through the spine of Grimsby!










Sounds like a plan :) I'd recommend reading through the SDK map editor guide, as that's a fairly comprehensive tutorial on the basics needed to get something working, but to get the advanced stuff you just need to keep practicing. I'd also recommend watching Iomex's streams as a good way to learn, or mine if I find the time any time soon.


EDIT: Thought I'd point you at the tutorial if you haven't found it: http://www.omnibussimulator.de/download/SDK/Manual_SDK_1_EN.pdf
 
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iMarkeh

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what would the research include? I know the main bit but I mean more indepth detail I possible.
 

Jason

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Sounds like a plan :) I'd recommend reading through the SDK map editor guide, as that's a fairly comprehensive tutorial on the basics needed to get something working, but to get the advanced stuff you just need to keep practicing. I'd also recommend watching Iomex's streams as a good way to learn, or mine if I find the time any time soon.


EDIT: Thought I'd point you at the tutorial if you haven't found it: http://www.omnibussimulator.de/download/SDK/Manual_SDK_1_EN.pdf






That's really useful! Thanks for sharing that with me! I'll see if I can have a go at getting Grimsby Bus Station somewhat put together in the coming few days and see how all that works out :)

what would the research include? I know the main bit but I mean more indepth detail I possible.










Well, stuff such as research can be in gathering the information about the different lines and routes, timetables and stuff that really needs to be figured out (for example, when does a certain bus have to leave Grimsby Bus Depot to make it to Louth in time for Service 51C, etc.).
 

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Well the idea is interesting and the post is laid out well, but you can't build a map out of repaints.


As an aside, your profile picture was broken and I've so removed it, please reupload it when you have the chance.
 

KieronTreacher

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I am really looking forward to this. I actually live in Grimsby so it will be fantastic to drive my home routes. I wish you the very best of luck and I can offer a helping hand in research if necessary. 
 

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Service 1: EuroParc/Wybers Wood/Grimsby/East Marsh/Cleethorpes
Service 2: Wybers Wood/Grimsby/East Marsh/Cleethorpes
Service 3: Morrisons/Cleethorpes Pier/Bradley
Service 4: Morrisons/Cleethorpes Pier/Bradley
Service 5: Immingham MIC/Grimsby
Service 5C: Grimsby/Immingham
Service 6: Grimsby/Wybers Wood
Service 7: Grange Estate/North Sea Lane/Laceby
Service 8: Grimsby/North Sea Lane
Service 8S: Pleasure Island/New Waltham/Grimsby
Service 9: Grimsby/Waltham/Cleethorpes
Service 9S: Waltham/Cleethorpes
Service 10: Grimsby/Waltham/Pleasure Island
Service 11: Grimsby/Scartho Park
Service 12: Grimsby/Bradley Park/New Waltham/Cleethorpes
Service 17: Cleethorpes Pier/Thorpe Park
Service 20: Wybers Wood/Grimsby/East Marsh/Cleethorpes
Service 25: Grimsby/Ludford
Service 50: Louth Town Service
Service 51: Louth/Grimsby/Tetney
Service 51A: Louth/Holton Le Clay
Service 51B: Louth/Holton Le Clay
Serivce 51C: Louth/Grimsby
Service 104: Waltham/Holton Le Clay






Wow, that's a lot of routes... :P  
 

iMarkeh

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Well, stuff such as research can be in gathering the information about the different lines and routes, timetables and stuff that really needs to be figured out (for example, when does a certain bus have to leave Grimsby Bus Depot to make it to Louth in time for Service 51C, etc.).






I can do that. I will help with that bit.
 

Jason

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Well the idea is interesting and the post is laid out well, but you can't build a map out of repaints.


As an aside, your profile picture was broken and I've so removed it, please reupload it when you have the chance.










Yeah, I know that. These have just been some things I've worked on over the previous few months. I'm hoping to start the Map process pretty soon, however!


Ah, thanks for that! I'll take a look into it shortly!

I am really looking forward to this. I actually live in Grimsby so it will be fantastic to drive my home routes. I wish you the very best of luck and I can offer a helping hand in research if necessary. 










Some further research and advice would be highly welcome, thanks for the offer! :)

Wow, that's a lot of routes... :P  










Yeah, that's pretty much every route that operates around here! Eventually, I hope to implement as many as possible (Routes such as the 7 and 9 actually interchange between one another, though)!

I can do that. I will help with that bit.










Great, many thanks for the contributions!
 

KieronTreacher

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The only advice I can give at the moment is to develop areas that are most familiar to you. Obviously the town centre is the most obvious place to start but if I was building a map, I'd go towards Willows/Wybers creating route 6 first, as its where I live and the areas I know the most. As for research, I have various Simplibus timetable's which could be used for making schedules. I should be able to get more material on Tuesday when Stagecoach have a bus at the Riverhead promoting Green Week.
 

ABZBuses

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Only thing i would say is try and learn the editor before starting big projects, apart from that i look forward to seeing whats to come. 
 
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