i want to create an omnidekka but dont know how to

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buttiebacon

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Yeah, no, making a bus from scratch requires a lot of time, effort, and patience. If I have to be brutally honest, I don't really see it in you, sorry.
how can you tell someone's personality traits through one question asked on a forum? Why are you just assuming that he doesn't have the dedication to do it? Maybe he doesn't but i find that by immediately assuming that he won't want to try or anything seems very rude.

i would really like to create an omnidekka but i dont know how to i was wondering wheather someone could give me some help
Well you could try and start to practice modelling by making a static bus using software like blender, then if you are ready, then you could try scripting, there are videos on road-hog's twitch channel for scripts, or you can look at the script files of other buses to get a reference but button assignments will take ages.
 

Costar1198

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Mar 30, 2016
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I'm gonna be honest if you only have two months you won't get far at all. Look at my MCV for example, I know I'm a slow builder but I have been building it over a course of almost two years. It doesn't take two months to build a bus I'm afraid, heck you couldn't even get all the references in two months without getting lucky. But still I admire you for having a strong dream, and I hope you manage to make something come to fruition.
 
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Road-hog123

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When building a model you want to get your sources to be as close to the real thing as possible. Just like a game of Chinese Whispers, every reproduction introduces some error, and depending on how much time someone spent on trying to make something accurate, the amount of error varies. For best results you want your bus to be an exact copy of the real thing, but obviously it will never be perfect and one must reach a compromise between perfection and finishing the project.

The best source of reference is the real thing, or the diagrams that were sent to the manufacturing teams to tell them what to make. The latter is difficult to come by, and usually only for old vehicles where the blueprints are in a historical archive somewhere. A current manufacturer isn't going to give you that which tells you how to copy their bus in case you sell it to a rival manufacturer. Taking a tape measure (or other measuring equipment) to a real bus will give the best results, but you'd probably need to arrange a depot visit to do that, and they're obviously not going to let in a kid with no previous experience. SCS was able to 3D scan the new Scania to make their model, but obviously they're a company with a lot of existing models to lean on.

Service and Operators' manuals can also be useful, but remember that they're written before the first bus is produced, so they have to be based on pre-production vehicles which may differ from the final product. They also have revisions over time if things are improved on the vehicle.

Well-lit, in-focus and high-definition photographs of the real thing from every angle you can get are vital, but I wouldn't trace from them. The lens of a camera distorts the image (with more distortion the further from the centre you get) and so they don't actually tell you the truth.

Paintings, sketches, paper bus templates, brochure artwork, "blueprints" from blueprint sites, etc. are all artist's impressions of the thing rather than highly accurate reference and should be avoided. They may look recognisable, but when compared carefully to the real thing or to accurate diagrams they quickly show up their issues.
 

Costar1198

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Mar 30, 2016
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I find it best just to not set yourself an estimated completion time. So much can happen between now and then, such as a lack of motivation or a hard drive crash. It also saves yourself a lot of stress.
 

tr673

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i would really like to create an omnidekka but i dont know how to i was wondering wheather someone could give me some help
Nice choice of bus there! I would also like to do an Omnidekka but like a lot of people I have found 3d software a bit difficult to work with and the process of importing even the most basic of things into OMSI rather infuriating.
To me the best kind of Omnidekka is a 12m low height one since I grew up riding them, though with three different chassis and four different types of bodywork by three different companies over the years, the Omnidekka is hardly a standardised bus one you get looking. And that's only the Nottingham ones. But each to their own as to what bus they prefer.
The SD202 static bus can be converted into a convincing Omnidekka static model, I did one myself a while back and it was okay, just a texture change required.

If you're itching to give it a go then if you have some sort of 3d software like Google Sketchup or something and make a box. See if you can get it into OMSI. Then, if you can, go back to your box and give it some windows and a Scania badge, and take it from there.
That's what I *should* do anyway. In reality I try to make the whole object in one go and then mess up between putting it in Blender and getting it to OMSI. Don't be like me and do that!
 

P674 MLE

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i would really like to create an omnidekka but i dont know how to i was wondering wheather someone could give me some help
i believe you can do it but it is very complicated and takes a lot of your time so if you have lots of spare time go for it if not try parts of the bus here and there until maybe one day it will be complete as @buttiebacon said you should try to experiment with a static bus for now until your modelling skill improves then it will be looking good hope my advice helps

also don't listen to them people saying thing's such as " you cant do it " just think about the fact that most people who say that cant even make a bus themselves
 

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Oh jeez.

You can't trust "diagrams" from manufacturers' brochures, let alone paperbuses. It's like trying to make a model of a model... the person who made the paper bus did so entirely by eye so why don't you just do the same? It'll be better than adding inaccuracies on top of inaccuracies.
 

busmadguyuk

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Oct 27, 2016
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Nice choice of bus there! I would also like to do an Omnidekka but like a lot of people I have found 3d software a bit difficult to work with and the process of importing even the most basic of things into OMSI rather infuriating.
To me the best kind of Omnidekka is a 12m low height one since I grew up riding them, though with three different chassis and four different types of bodywork by three different companies over the years, the Omnidekka is hardly a standardised bus one you get looking. And that's only the Nottingham ones. But each to their own as to what bus they prefer.
The SD202 static bus can be converted into a convincing Omnidekka static model, I did one myself a while back and it was okay, just a texture change required.

If you're itching to give it a go then if you have some sort of 3d software like Google Sketchup or something and make a box. See if you can get it into OMSI. Then, if you can, go back to your box and give it some windows and a Scania badge, and take it from there.
That's what I *should* do anyway. In reality I try to make the whole object in one go and then mess up between putting it in Blender and getting it to OMSI. Don't be like me and do that!

thank you for the info and help I am planning to model it of off reading buses standardised omnidekka here's a photo
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not my image I have fond memories of riding these when I was growing up hence my choice of bus. I believe the chassis is a l94ub at least I think.
 
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thank you for the info and help I am planning to model it of off reading buses standardised omnidekka here's a photo View attachment 31642 not my image I have fond memories of riding these when I was growing up hence my choice of bus. I believe the chassis is a l94ub at least I think.
I rode that bus lots of times too (First X53 and 31)!


(images not mine, but depict what I mean the best)
 
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Not accurate? Huh. I've modelled these two buses and some more only based on paperbus images and real life photographs...
But I can imagine that when the buses are really curved it could get difficult only having paperbus pictures...

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BTW: What do you think of my bus models? (they're not yet finished, e.g. the staircase on the Olympus is missing)
 

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Yes, paper bus nets are probably the most unrealistic blueprint (tongue in cheek) ever. They're hand drawn and miss out most of the panel detailing, etc.
 

HD Transport

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Not accurate? Huh. I've modelled these two buses and some more only based on paperbus images and real life photographs...
But I can imagine that when the buses are really curved it could get difficult only having paperbus pictures...


BTW: What do you think of my bus models? (they're not yet finished, e.g. the staircase on the Olympus is missing)
wait are you creating these for Omsi...I’m not a fan of the Esteem (it’s not your problem, it’s a real life problem) but the Olympus looks great
 
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