Gaming PC deciding help

Richie_RH

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May 11, 2016
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Hi :)  So I am hoping you guys can help with this as I am looking for a gaming PC which will bring great performance for OMSI 2 and TS but within a reasonable budget (My only concern is I am not sure that exists :P As some I have looked at seem to be very pricey) I would also prefer if it was a laptop but I am open to anything as long as its performance is great. I currently own a gaming PC with i7 and I will include the specs now:


Processer : Intel Core i7 4510U @ 2.00GHz


RAM: 8.00GB


Generic PnP Monitor


Now that seems alright for me and runs OMSI and TS quite good but it has its FPS drops now and then that get quite annoying and I have noticed sometimes OMSI lags quite badly on certain areas of maps which I am sure is normal but I think it could do better.


Could you please send me links to PC's you would recommend as I really need a new one and hope you can help :)


Thankss
 

xxtechehxx

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May 13, 2016
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As I see you have ultra book, I suggest you look at Desktops from places like DinoPC if you do not need portability and travel much. They also come cheaper than laptops and have much better performance than laptops. Gaming Laptops do not come cheap either. The specs that you have shown are absolutely fine to run OMSI. I have a i7 3770 with same amount of RAM and GTX 780, but that still lags in certain places, it is normal. 


so if you want more performance than desktop PCs are the way to go. 
 
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Richie_RH

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Thank you I will look into getting a desktop although if I decide to keep my laptop could I upgrade it and what would I need to upgrade and how do I go about it. Thanks
 

Toucan

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Now firstly do you have skills to BUILD a PC or do you know someone who can as premade gaming pcs are WAYYYY OVERPRICED. You could buy a laptop from PC Specialist. If you were going to buy a Gaming PC I'd buy an I5 (The new one) and a GTX 960 4GB as that would run Omsi and TS at about 30FPS (Estimate) Also I would recommend uk.pcpartpicker.com as you can pick parts for your budget and it will tell you what the prices will be.  Finally NEVER buy from EBAY or websites you have never heard of. As these websites might scam you and we don't want that happening. Also I would keep away from amazon for Pre-Made PCs because they are a bit over exaggerated. 



I hope this *kind of* helps you.
 

xxtechehxx

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May 13, 2016
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Thank you I will look into getting a desktop although if I decide to keep my laptop could I upgrade it and what would I need to upgrade and how do I go about it. Thanks
Laptop wise you can only upgrade the hard drive and ram. 
 

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As @Toucan has said, an Intel i5 is a good bet. I'm currently running an i5-4690k, which is almost identical to the i5-6600k of the current generation of Intel CPUs - both are 4-core, both up to 3.9 GHz; but the 6600k is a little cheaper and gets a little bit more work done per GHz. (If you want, you can also overclock either of the processors to get a few more GHz, I've got my 4690k at 4.5 GHz). You're also going to want a graphics card, I have an XFX AMD R9 280X which isn't sold anymore, but I believe the GTX 960 is about the same in performance. With my system I've been getting consistent 60 fps in rural areas of Cotterell, dropping down to around 40 when in the town centre. In TS I find that around built-up areas on newer routes the fps will drop down to around 30, but will be a lot higher in the countryside. Neither game is particularly well optimised unfortunately, but TS will make more use of your GPU than Omsi does. Building a PC yourself will reduce the cost a little, I believe Scan do an insurance type thing to cover installation damage, but it's not that hard to build a computer, you just want to make sure that all your parts fit together. You will probably want to do some reading of reviews, benchmarks and guides to get some more information. :)

Laptop wise you can only upgrade the hard drive and ram. 
Depends on the laptop. They're by far the easiest to change on any laptop, just being a case of undoing a few screws and removing the parts from the slots, but it is possible to change other components in a laptop. If the CPU is actually part of the motherboard then it's not possible to change it without replacing the whole board, but although I've not done it, I believe my laptop has a CPU socket that means I could remove the CPU and replace it with a better model. I don't know about GPUs though as my laptop doesn't have one, but if another model of the laptop had a better GPU then it'd be likely to fit into a lesser model. :)

NEVER buy from EBAY
Never? I'd accept that you ought to be careful when purchasing on eBay, making sure to read descriptions as the like, but I've seen a lot of perfectly fine computer parts sold on eBay with some quite nice deals on little used CPUs... Quite a few sellers accept returns/refunds if the part they sell you doesn't work and I'm pretty sure eBay has cover for mis-selling. :)
 

Richie_RH

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May 11, 2016
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 by far the easiest to change on any laptop, just being a case of undoing a few screws and removing the parts from the slots, but it is possible to change other components in a laptop.
Knowing me I would probably end up breaking the laptop, this might be a stupid question but is it possible to pay well known companies to upgrade it like Curry's or the company who made my laptop HP? If not I will probably end up buying an i5 then as long as the GHz are high. I am thinking it would be best to wait for Black Friday sale and get the laptop for Christmas as I think the laptop I have now was 1k before Black Friday and £600 In the sale so could get a good deal on excellent gaming PC's then and may even sell my iMac and other laptop to supply me with loaddssss of money to get the best one going :)  But my patience is just running low when I watch these OMSI videos and they run very fast.
 

xxtechehxx

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Knowing me I would probably end up breaking the laptop, this might be a stupid question but is it possible to pay well known companies to upgrade it like Curry's or the company who made my laptop HP? If not I will probably end up buying an i5 then as long as the GHz are high. I am thinking it would be best to wait for Black Friday sale and get the laptop for Christmas as I think the laptop I have now was 1k before Black Friday and £600 In the sale so could get a good deal on excellent gaming PC's then and may even sell my iMac and other laptop to supply me with loaddssss of money to get the best one going :)  But my patience is just running low when I watch these OMSI videos and they run very fast.
I believe KnowHow at Curry's will do it, but when using them I haven't really had a good experience using them.


your best bet upgrading wise would be to go to local tech companies that have trusted reviews, that's how I went about my desktop.


@Road-hog123 as @Richie_RH has an ultrabook processor and it would only use Intel Dedicated Graphics. so unfourtunatley he would only be able to upgrade the Ultrabook to another processor and there wouldn't be much difference to performance. Dedicated laptop GPU's I think are possible to change as my Alienware 15's motherboard had to be replaced recently and the GPU was a different bit to the motherboard. The ultrabook processor I believe would be soldered in and not replaceable (the same as my laptop)
 
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jowilliams15

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If you need some advice, you would be better off getting a Desktop PC, not a laptop. It also depends what sort of games you play as laptops struggle sometimes
 

sunny2807

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Feb 12, 2016
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Guys I need some advice. A friend of mine is looking at buying a PC, which will be mostly used for gaming, and has been asked to choose between these:


1: i3 @ 3.6GHz with a 16GB RAM


2: i5 @ 3.2 GHz with 8GB RAM.


Which one do you guys think is better for gaming (not OMSI)?


Also is the Palit GeForce 610 any good?
 
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Guys I need some advice. A friend of mine is looking at buying a PC, which will be mostly used for gaming, and has been asked to choose between these:


1: i3 @ 3.6GHz with a 16GB RAM


2: i5 @ 3.2 GHz with 8GB RAM.


Which one do you guys think is better for gaming (not OMSI)?


Also is the Palit GeForce 610 any good?
What budget is he on?
 
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Ah okay, for around £450-£500 you could get hold of an i5 with 750TI. Under that you'd probably be looking at an i3.
 

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My overclocked Pentium Anniversary PC with 750Ti was about £450 all in including SSD and secondary HDD. I've built two of them now and both have overclocked on their H81 mobos no problem. 4.1GHz dual-core is great for OMSI, not so good for OMSI while streaming...


I'd probably go for the i5 one myself, because four real cores will stand you in good stead for quite some time. Above 8GB you don't really need any more RAM except for intensive specialist applications like video editing.


The 610 is a woeful card, it's barely better than onboard graphics - a GT730 is the absolute lowest I'd ever go, and that's pushing it. You want a 750Ti or an R7 360 to start being able to play things properly.
 

sunny2807

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My overclocked Pentium Anniversary PC with 750Ti was about £450 all in including SSD and secondary HDD. I've built two of them now and both have overclocked on their H81 mobos no problem. 4.1GHz dual-core is great for OMSI, not so good for OMSI while streaming...


I'd probably go for the i5 one myself, because four real cores will stand you in good stead for quite some time. Above 8GB you don't really need any more RAM except for intensive specialist applications like video editing.


The 610 is a woeful card, it's barely better than onboard graphics - a GT730 is the absolute lowest I'd ever go, and that's pushing it. You want a 750Ti or an R7 360 to start being able to play things properly.

Ah okay, for around £450-£500 you could get hold of an i5 with 750TI. Under that you'd probably be looking at an i3.

I was on a small budget, and the pc i was using was very bad for OMSI, graphoics low and no AI before i can play.#


I did however purchase this one:


http://www.freshtechsolutions.co.uk/amd-a8-4-2ghz-quad-core-16gb-1tb-fts-gaming-pc-desktop-computer-galaxy-3-hdmi.html


I can run Ahlhiem, Manly ACT 2 with high settings and AI


Only issue i have is i cant drive bendy buses, but then i cant drive them anyway hahaha
 
Thanks for your advice guys. Much appreciated. He will probably have to review his options now, as he didn't know that the 610 was useless.